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May 3, 2005

Right and Wrong Religions

-- by Dave Johnson

How many things are wrong with this?

Update at Paperwight's Fair Shot.

Posted by Dave Johnson at May 3, 2005 4:17 PM

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This is one of those posts you feel motivated to respond to. All I can say is this is ridiculous.

Does this statement have any relevance? I don't know the historical context in which it was given. The 11th Article of the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by George Washington in 1796, and later signed by President John Adams after ratification by the Senate, states:

“As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Muslim nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”I find it interesting that a contemporaneous statement, in a treaty, clearly contradicts the assertion that this nation is founded upon Christianity.

Posted by: Mark Thoma at May 3, 2005 4:51 PM

I think they'd use any excuse in the world to keep from having a Wiccan -- what would the person be called, anyway? Priestess? Warlock? -- give the invocation. Considering today's smugly crazed religious atmosphere it's deliciously wicked of the Wiccans to bring this up!

For those who don't know, Wiccans are, uh, witches. Literally in the original, traditional sense. This was an offshoot of the woman's movement in the 70s, but now at least as many men as women belong. The idea was to revive the pre-Christian religion women were tortured and burned for practicing, usually as the local "wise women" or herbalists and healers, although they did definitely provide magic spells and incantations, and still do. You can see why it infuriates the Christians, especially the Fundies, who I'm sure would love to burn them. It's still a strong and growing movement. And no, I don't belong to it. But some of my friends do.

One of my favorite stories from WW II is of the British witches gathering every evening on the White Cliffs of Dover to "call down" fog and bad weather to protect the planes flying to bomb Germany. I would truly love to have seen that!

Posted by: MJ at May 3, 2005 5:17 PM

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