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June 13, 2005

Oldman Says Don't Impeach

-- by Dave Johnson

Here be Dragons,

Impeaching President Bush before a new Constitutional consensus has been reached in this nation would cause a terrible split and schism and lead almost inevitably to Civil War. That may indeed happen, but it would be short sighted. While I hate the guy, it is far better to let him linger and tar him with the deeds of his own hands' fashioning, until he and the Republicans become noxious to every single non-fanatic American. The better route is to let the stench of mendacity and fanaticism rise to high heaven while the apologists and defenders of such a creed look ever more creepy and ever more deluded.
Read the whole thing. He makes some good points. On the other hand, a lot of the trouble we're in now is because they let Reagan's crew get away with Iran Contra.

Posted by Dave Johnson at June 13, 2005 9:51 PM

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It is true that they( iran contra gang) got away with things , got pardoned etc, and then all got new shiny jobs in this administration. The mendacity and nuts crawling out from under every rock is happening because they have been emboldened and never made to pay. If Bush can push this then Frist and Dobson think they can push that and the state legislators try out laws to report miscarriages, punish gays, institute legal discrimination etc. We are seeing attacks on every front, repeal of the 20th century etc because they have not been tarred with their own crap. Dems keep coming after them and cleaning their messes- so yea I would like to see Bush stew in his own juice for a long while yet.

Posted by: emeldir at June 13, 2005 10:26 PM

Oldhams argument is 'give them enough rope...' and it rings true. If you doubt this is a good strategy then go down the road of impeachment a mile or two. Those in power would love to have a messy constitutional fight because they have no reservations about detroying whats left of civil rights in order to make this a country that exists solely for the rich and annointed.
The Depression is a good analogy. People have forgotten the bad times and how we got there. We are condemned to live it again, and learn. We can't make it all go away with an impeachment. The entire country has to come around and that means we will all have to feel the pain until we all are ready to say 'uncle'.

Posted by: Niall McGinnis at June 14, 2005 6:09 AM

So exactly who would impeach Bush anyway? The Republican Congress?

Posted by: MJ at June 14, 2005 8:58 AM

If the D's candinate for Pres. doesn't promise to appoint investigators to comb throught the complete files, records and all documents of this adminstration and bring criminial charges against all of these crooks even after they are out of office don't bother asking for my money, my vote or my time.
crusader bunnypants and his coterie belong in Pelican bay.

Posted by: Ken at June 14, 2005 9:50 AM

MJ took the words right out of my mouth, but it needs to be said again and again: Who's going to impeach Bush? Why waste our breath (and ink) on something that won't happen?

Posted by: Phil from New York at June 15, 2005 12:53 PM

When Reagan was brought into power in 1980 and when he brought people like James Watt, Anne Burford, Ed Meese, etc, etc. into influence I was horrified but figured that the correct metaphoric image to have for the Reagan administration was a post-pubescents' pimple. As a teen, I learned that the tiny bit of dirt under your skin was best left to grow until it got red and sore and then the time would come when you could pop it in it's most virulent form as a whitehead. The Reagan blackhead! And boy, were they a pouch of putrid scum. Go to the link below to see what I mean. http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/reagan.html But Reagan's a hero nowadays to some people. Can you believe it? He was a lizard. And....they got away with it. The crackhead pres. nowadays is Reagan squared. Anyway, we have to learn to be able to resolve diferences without war and we have to spank the lying, jerkoff politicians that take us to war. I say dubya has to go down hard and that it would be good for the country. Of course there still is the matter of of republican control of congress.

Posted by: backwoods at June 16, 2005 11:55 AM

It would be fine if we could wait until the next two elections, and dump them then. The problem is that they control the vote counting. They won't let themselves be defeated.

Posted by: John H. Morrison at June 18, 2005 10:08 PM

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