September 29, 2005
-- by Thomas Leavitt
[UPDATE2: Polling on Impeachment
Does the public favor an investigation into grounds for impeachment of President Bush? We have no way of knowing, because the pollsters aren't asking. The After Downing Street coalition has begun collecting donations to hire mainstream professional pollsters to ask the questions that need to be asked. It doesn't take much money, but can have a tremendous impact. Learn more and contribute here:
[UPDATE, 1 a.m.: The email/campaign mentioned below is obsolete, being replaced by a much larger scale campaign. Check out Raw Story on Friday, the 30th (tomorrow/today) for details. This per Luke Ryland. -Thomas]
Got this email in my box today... here's the scoop: Zogby did a poll in June on whether Bush should be impeached if he mislead the nation about the reasons for going to war in Iraq. 42% of the public said "yes". At that point, Zogby indicated that he would do a follow up survey... but he hasn't done one since, and last week he said he wouldn't (interview with RAW STORY), unless someone paid him to (claims he wants to avoid losing his "neutrality").
Here's what the email says (excerpt):
If the Pro-impeachment camp can't raise the money for this, we're not much of an anti-bush movement are we? THIS would make a difference! Surely we anti-bush activists can raise $5000 or even $10000. There is no minimun donation amount, but I think most people would consider $5 affordable and reasonable. If not, whatever you can afford is fine. Shoot, if we get 5000 people to donate $2 each, or 10,000 people to donate $1, we're on our way. I already have 3 pledges of $100 and one for $50, so we've got $350 in the kitty and are off to a good start. If for any reason this effort fails and this doesn't work out, all the money donated will be returned, less the 2.9% +$0.30 cent fee that PayPal takes for business and premier accounts.
If this sounds like a concept, you can donate here (full text of email reproduced "below the fold"... click on "more").
Here's the source material:
Raw Story - Zogby responds to calls for new impeachment poll
Luke Reyland is pissed, says that Zogby is in Rove's pocket.
Full contents of original email (slightly edited):
Last week, John Zogby was interviewed and asked about doing a poll on impeaching bush (article below). He said he would not ask any questions on impeaching bush on his own initiative, that he would only do it if he is hired to do it. I called Zogby and he confirmed that he will do poll questions on Impeaching Bush and related matters if he is paid to do it.
I don't see anybody else coming forward, so it looks like it's up to us. If we don't raise the impeachment question in a poll and introduce it to the public, nobody else is going to do it. And we desperately need this kind of information out there, to get the impeachment movement rolling, to start the conversation, and to reach people who aren't involved now, maybe out of intimidation and fear, and who need some support and encouragement to stand up and speak out. Once there is one poll and it is in the public domain, more polls and more discussion will follow.
I've opened a PayPal Business account under the name Zogby Impeachment Poll. There can be several people "on" a Business account with different levels of access which I why I chose this one, so there will be checks and balances and no one will think anyone (me) is playing around with the funds. We also need a business account to accept credit cards and debit cards. (The Premier Account has the same fees, but only one person can have access.)
If the Pro-impeachment camp can't raise the money for this, we're not much of an anti-bush movement are we? THIS would make a difference! Surely we anti-bush activists can raise $5000 or even $10000. There is no minimun donation amount, but I think most people would consider $5 affordable and reasonable. If not, whatever you can afford is fine. Shoot, if we get 5000 people to donate $2 each, or10,000 people to donate $1, we're on our way. I already have 3 pledges of $100 and one for $50, so we've got $350 in the kitty and are off to a good start. If for any reason this effort fails and this doesn't work out, all the money donated will be returned, less the 2.9% +$0.30 cent fee that PayPal takes for business and premier accounts.
Please join in and contribute whatever you can, no matter how little. Every dollar counts and every dollar will help.
Here are the details of how it will work.
We could either have our own poll, if we had a lot of questions, or we could be included in what they call the "bi-monthly omnibus" with only one question or a few. We would be provided with the poll results and all the demographic breakdowns: age, religion, sex. red state/blue state, etc.
The cost is $2000 for the first question, $1000 for every additional question. (There is a discrepancy on the cost of the first question, it may only be $1000.)
We also need to have people submit the questions they would like asked. You need to take some time with this and try to phrase the questions the way poll questions are worded, so there is no implications or slanting. I have a Zogby poll, provided by Luke/Lukery who started this whole issue going that I have uploaded to the files section of Aggressive Progressives so those members can check it out. I will send the poll to any owner who wants it for the file section of their group.
I'd also like to get a website up, one that looks decent, one page is all that is necessary. I'll buy the domain name and pay for the hosting. Is there anyone out there who does web pages and would like to volunteer? (Maybe I can do it myself, but I haven't done a web page in 3 years, so I'm rusty and not up to the latest technology and I'd like it to look somewhat professional.)
I'd ideally like to raise at least $10,000 to ask an array of questions, on impeaching bush and cheney, opening a new investigation on 911, the plame case, criminal charges for Katrina, etc.
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