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October 19, 2005

Strongest Hurricane EVER - Again

-- by Dave Johnson

Wilma strongest hurricane on record

Hurricane Wilma became the most powerful Atlantic hurricane on record on Wednesday as it churned toward western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan peninsula on a track toward Florida, having already killed 10 people in Haiti.

The season's record-tying 21st storm, fueled by the warm waters of the northwest Caribbean Sea, strengthened alarmingly into a Category 5 hurricane, the top rank on the five-step scale of hurricane intensity.

A U.S. Air Force reconnaissance plane measured maximum sustained winds of 175 mph, with higher gusts, the U.S.
National Hurricane Center said.

The plane also recorded a minimum pressure of 882 millibars, the lowest value ever observed in the Atlantic basin. That meant Wilma was stronger than any storm on record, including Katrina, which devastated New Orleans in late August, and Rita, which hit the Texas-Louisiana coast in September.

Before this Rita was the strongest ever measured.

Hey, do you think something might be going on with the weather?

See also New Storm Measures as Most Intense Ever for Atlantic Basin

Posted by Dave Johnson at October 19, 2005 7:32 AM

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Tracked on October 19, 2005 8:48 AM


Hey, do you think something might be going on with the weather?

Yes, we are going into a cycle similar to the 40s, 50s, and early 60s where we had multiple, large, and devastating storms. We don't need any quasi-religious global warming hype to explain it, and we don't need an economy-destroying treaty (Kyoto) to stop them.

Posted by: Pericles at October 19, 2005 8:24 AM

To the readers - Pericles is a troll who repeats energy and pharmaceutical propaganda here.

Posted by: Dave Johnson [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 19, 2005 9:07 AM

Thank you for qualifying that headline with "on record". All day it's been the same naivete from all the news outlets: "strongest hurrican ever". Not at all... only since man started recording weather, which has been less than 250 years (and you can bet they weren't measuring the pressure of hurricanes when they started).

250 years is less than a nano-second in the scheme of global climate. Man has only been around since about the last ice age, and we know there have been several ice ages on Earth. The Earth's climate likely operates on a cycle that is bigger than anything man has ever known; there should never be superlatives in our forecasts. Nothing necessarily new or different is happening with the weather, but it is fashionable to sensationalize the weather right now.

Posted by: pylbug at October 19, 2005 11:37 AM

And how about that tsunami and earthquake? I'm gonna get myself a nice big sign saying THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING and a tin cup and make speeches on a corner of Times Square about all this.

Seriously, though, we probably are in a very long time weather cycle. There have been previous ice ages, and we don't entirely understand cause and effect major climate changes yet. It doesn't help that weather is essentially chaotic, either, and I mean chaotic in the scientific sense of the use of the world. Even so, judging by what we DO know, the odds are very high that we're making any cyclical changes infinitely worse than they need to be by our refusal to take the effect we, ourselves, have on our planet. At this point, where else do we have to go? And how much evidence do we need that something's going wrong? It's not a matter of opinion, but of fact, that burning fossil fuels, cutting down rain forests, and many other HUMAN factors are affecting the climate. Wouldn't it make sense to be a bit more prudent? We can't necessarily count on the Rapture to save us.

Posted by: MJ at October 19, 2005 12:53 PM


Posted by: DEAN BERRY -- REAL AMERICAN at October 19, 2005 1:18 PM

We did have ice ages before, but commerce was at an all time low. My crystal ball doesn't let me forsee how the next one will affect the paint job on my fleet of Hummers, but it does give me great hope that we will finally be able to get rid of those pesky poor people.

The beauty part is that decomposition will not be a problem so we won't have to bother burying them. Yippee!

Posted by: grannyinsanity [TypeKey Profile Page] at October 19, 2005 5:22 PM

I think we'd oughta wait for some sound science on this global warming stuff doncha think?

Yeah Georgie, yeah.

Posted by: Vinnie at October 19, 2005 8:39 PM

First of all, though Pericles is a troll, his arguments are exactly those we should be listening to closely and learning how to efficiently counter. Those are the arguments we will meet up with from misinformed friends and wingnuts, whether at the bar or on TV. For us, Pericles is a periscope on The U.S.S. Wingnutter.

To that effect, I will simply counter his argument by pointing out that his example of the "40s, 50s, and early 60s" includes a longer time span, and in no way addresses the "strongest recorded hurricane" problem. The past two hurricanes, in a row, have been stronger than any hurricane that occurred in the 40s, 50s, 60s, or the past 200 years, for that matter. How, in any way, does an example of weaker hurricanes show that global warming is not happening?

Pericles pseudo-religious jab at global warming is a pot-shot. To counter, if he thinks so little of pseudo-religious mumbo-jumbo, I would hope he agrees that the pseudo-religious "under God" in our Pledge of Allegiance (it's not really religious... really) is Unconstitutional; teaching of pseudo-religious Intelligent Design in our nation's public school classrooms is retarded beyond belief; and Bush should shut up about his pseudo-religious experiences and his pseudo-religious statements referencing himself as the Hand of God and doing God's work and listening to the Lord and all that complete, fabricated, based on nothing, unproven, let's-manipulate-the-masses bullshit.

Stupid pericles.

To pylbug, your lack of faith in human imagination, much less human intellect, is saddening. Go find a high school environmental science textbook and read it.

For MJ, I agree overall, but I respectfully disagree on certain points you've made. I feel that our current understanding of global climate patterns, both in the short term and over millenia, is deep enough and broad enough to warrant these conclusions. Yes, there are gaps in understanding cause-and-effect, much as we have gaps in understanding in evolution, subatomic particles, economics, and the human psyche. Such gaps do not mean strong conclusions are in any way are unwarranted. Otherwise than that, your post is exactly on point.

Dean Berry, my apologies, but your post sucks.

Posted by: Bribes at October 20, 2005 4:11 AM

Go to http://www.enterprisemission.com and learn about AWM.


This is NO bullshit and hurricanes do NOT act like the last several we've had, naturally.


Posted by: marblex at October 20, 2005 9:37 AM

Richard Hoagland? Hyperdimensional geometry? You've got to be kidding! Even UFOlogists stopped taking him seriously years ago.

Posted by: MJ at October 21, 2005 7:28 AM

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