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November 7, 2005

Vatican Endorses Evolution

-- by Dave Johnson

The wingnuts are trying to get a Catholic majority on the Supreme Court. The Republican-Catholic relationship is a marriage of convenience, a ploy for votes. Traditionally the Republican base is anti-Catholic.

For a good example of the anti-Catholic feelings of the fundamentalists, look at the language of Bush's buddy Bob Jones. From Catholic.com,

Not long after Pope Paul VI died in 1978, Bob Jones, chancellor of Bob Jones University in Greenville, South Carolina, wrote an ill-tempered article in his school’s magazine, Faith for the Family (not to be confused with Dr. James Dobson’s magazine, Focus on the Family). The article was republished by the Fundamentalist organization Mission to Catholics, International (run by an ex-Carmelite priest-turned-Fundamentalist minister) as a tract entitled The Church of Rome in Perspective.

No effort is made to be conciliatory, as the first line demonstrates: "Pope Paul VI, archpriest of Satan, a deceiver and an anti-Christ, has, like Judas, gone to his own place." It goes downhill from there.

John F Kennedy encountered strong anti-Catholic bias from the Republicans and had to address Southern Baptist leaders in September, 1960, to assure them that he would not "take orders from the Pope." But before the 2004 election Bush asked the Pope for exactly that - he asked the Pope to order American Bishops to set aside Catholic views on war, torture, corruption, materialism and debt and campaign against Kerry because Kerry said he wouldn't follow the orders of the Church on abortion when in office. And he got his wish.

Well, the election is over, and it looks as though the alliance may be as well. I wonder if this will affect the Alito nomination, when the wingnuts start to understand what getting what they wished for could mean. As I noted above, Catholics oppose war, torture, corruption, materialism and debt -- also known as the Republican Party Platform.

Evolution in the bible, says Vatican - The Other Side - Breaking News 24/7 - NEWS.com.au

THE Vatican has issued a stout defence of Charles Darwin, voicing strong criticism of Christian fundamentalists who reject his theory of evolution and interpret the biblical account of creation literally.
Cardinal Paul Poupard, head of the Pontifical Council for Culture, said the Genesis description of how God created the universe and Darwin's theory of evolution were "perfectly compatible" if the Bible were read correctly.

His statement was a clear attack on creationist campaigners in the US, who see evolution and the Genesis account as mutually exclusive.

"The fundamentalists want to give a scientific meaning to words that had no scientific aim," he said at a Vatican press conference. He said the real message in Genesis was that "the universe didn't make itself and had a creator".

Posted by Dave Johnson at November 7, 2005 12:19 PM

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Well - that's good news Dave! Unfortunately down under the Cardinal of Sydney George Pell has spoken out in favour of teaching ID, and he considers himself very much the 'Pope's Man' ..

Posted by: Helga Fremlin at November 7, 2005 1:57 PM

Traditionally the Republican base is anti-Catholic.

And, Traditionally the Democratic party was stronly anti-black. But, things change over time and only a fool thinks a political party is monolithic.

Posted by: Pericles at November 7, 2005 2:24 PM

The current equation goes something like this: Evolution = atheism. ID = religious belief. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Darwin's own education was for the clergy. He had no background or training in science or biology, strange as that seems today. The vast majority of Christian denominations have no problem at all with evolution. Not even all fundamentalists have any problem with evolution. It's only a very small, loud-mouthed minority of Fundamentalists who want to take the Bible literally who have any problem. If you look up "The Fundamentals," the collection of writings on which Fundamentalism is based, even they clearly state that we can't rely in the versions of the Bible we now have being literally the exact word of God because we don't have the original texts.

Posted by: MJ at November 7, 2005 3:28 PM

And who are those traditional racist democrats today, pericles? Republicans. Pretty unapologetic ones at that (at least until they have to step down from the Senate majority leader job).

Posted by: Anonymous at November 7, 2005 3:33 PM

As A former Catholic I can say that I was taught to hate protestants while growing up. As a former fundamentalist I can attest to the same teachings there. I am now a universalist and have left the hate behind.

Posted by: JB at November 7, 2005 3:36 PM

Hey, give pericletis a break. That's the closest he's ever been to making an actual point.

Christianity is another good example of how things have changed over time. It was a religion founded on a message of justice that spoke for the poor. Now it's being used by greedy people who hate the poor and want to put the heathens and sinners under their thumbs.

(Apologies to the real Christians out there who still care about social justice issues.)

Posted by: Dr. Laniac [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2005 8:21 PM

What does the bible say about--germs?

Posted by: Cole... at November 8, 2005 4:42 PM

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