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February 3, 2006

End Of Democracy - How Close?

-- by Dave Johnson

Martin Garbus: How Close Are We to the End of Democracy?,

Bush can start his own wars, preemptive or otherwise, is the ultimate interpreter of foreign treaties, he defines enemy combatants as he wishes, he detains prisoners for as long as he wishes, he continues surveillance on foreign intercepts for as long as he wishes, he tortures as he wishes, he can ignore Congressional directives and statutes such as those creating FISA, as well as essential elements of our Constitution.

This litany has no end. We cannot now anticipate all the ramifications of the "unitary" president and his claim of "inherent powers," except that it clearly allows him to fully take over the government.

Posted by Dave Johnson at February 3, 2006 1:58 PM

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Hopefully, we can still vote to throw the bastards out. I think. We'll know whether that's still true in a few months.

Posted by: MJ at February 3, 2006 3:03 PM

Sure we can vote, but who counts them?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 3, 2006 9:00 PM

With all this talk about "wartime powers" for the president it's easy to forget that the Constitution very specifically gives exclusive power to declare War to Congress -- and that Congress has not declared War since 1941.

Even if the President did have the special "wartime" powers that are claimed (and he doesn't), the fact is that we are not officially in a state of War.

Posted by: but but but at February 3, 2006 9:15 PM

I thought we were a republic?

Democracy Lite.

More Lies,
Less Freedom.

Posted by: The_Cosmic_Fluke at February 4, 2006 5:57 AM

Well thire is all kinds people in U.S.A. .Thire all kinds people wants a change.We have to work to gether get these crooks out white house and out senat and out gov. They are not working for us! But for thire selfe.It time clean house !If we all work to gether we can do it well you all stand up with me ? I would like se g.w.bush and crooks rich buddy,s wearing orang jumpsuite,s ! My this well put more light on it , Look at this link :http://houghsht.faitweb.com/photo3.html
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Posted by: Eddie at February 4, 2006 8:10 AM

Forest wrote: Bush can start his own wars, preemptive or otherwise, is the ultimate interpreter of foreign treaties, he defines enemy combatants as he wishes, he detains prisoners for as long as he wishes, he continues surveillance on foreign intercepts for as long as he wishes, he tortures as he wishes, he can ignore Congressional directives and statutes such as those creating FISA, as well as essential elements of our Constitution.
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What you wrote is all unfounded, unsubstantiated rhetoric and speculation. Black helicopter theory crap. You've got nothing. The sad part, is if a democrat president had made the same moves, you would be silent.

Posted by: Sickofspin at February 4, 2006 9:32 AM

"Forest wrote"

Quoted, actually.

Posted by: Dave Johnson [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2006 11:37 AM

OK Dave, the fact remains, what was written is all unfounded, unsubstantiated rhetoric and speculation. Black helicopter theory crap. You've got nothing. The sad part, is if a democrat president had made the same moves, you would be silent.

Posted by: Sickofspin at February 4, 2006 4:59 PM

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you have this problem with presidents starting their own wars in 1999 when we bombed and moved troops to Serbia and Kosovo without UN permission? I have no problems with that venture, but if Bush did it you would hate him for it.

Posted by: Arcane at February 4, 2006 6:31 PM

That was a joint NATO action, not Clinton or UN. North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Posted by: Dave Johnson [TypeKey Profile Page] at February 4, 2006 10:01 PM

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