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July 6, 2009

The Awesome Heft Of Conservative Intellect

-- by Dave Johnson

'Tea Party Patriots' take to the streets to protest health care reform,

The equation was clear: More government equals less individual choice. And to prove it, Jackman showed that all politics are ultimately personal.

"My mother had two cataracts removed, two new knees and a new hip, and she's up and running at 79," he said. "With a single-payer system, she'd still be a long waiting list. And I don't want to be on a waiting list when I get to be her age."

I know I don't need to explain the problem with this person's statements to Seeing the Forest readers, but I will explain for the occasional people dropping by from Fox News:

1) The reform plan being discussed adds an EXTRA option, where we KEEP THE CURRENT system and we add one more option in which the government provides health insurance by letting people buy into a Medicare-like plan. This is called a "public option."

2) The person's 79-year-old mother certainly had her procedures done by Medicare, which is a "single-payer" system run by the government, and not by private insurance.

3) Whether she was on Medicare or not, Medicare (single-payer) exists, and she was not on a waiting list. Maybe she used her free Medicare, maybe she paid extra. This is how the new plan would work as well.

4) Dumbass.

Posted by Dave Johnson at July 6, 2009 10:53 PM


Comments

Jerk. Obviously there was lots of waiting involved for those procedures between mom's first
twinge of pain, and squint. She didn't diagnose herself and just show up one day at the operating room. Obviously the writer wasn't the one driving old crippled/blind mom to the many appointments between eye doctors/opthamalogists/
and primary care doctors, specialists, and the hospital.
stfu.

Posted by: Konnie [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 7, 2009 12:41 PM

There's always a market for private health care and private health insurance, if you're happy to pay for it, even if you live in a country with single payer. This is true from the UK on the one hand to former 'Easter Block Communist' countries on the other.

Maybe people are wary of the perceived cost of a public option, OK. But it's totally incomprehensible how people can get hung up on this question of lack of choice, when even a modicum of research would show that it's a non-issue.

One must conclude that these poor chumps are being fed unadulterated propaganda, perhaps by an HMO industry very worried that it will have to start competing...

Posted by: Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 12, 2009 8:01 AM

There's always a market for private health care and private health insurance, if you're happy to pay for it, even if you live in a country with single payer. This is true from the UK on the one hand to former 'Eastern Block Communist' countries on the other.

Maybe people are wary of the perceived cost of a public option, OK. But it's totally incomprehensible how people can get hung up on this question of lack of choice, when even a modicum of research would show that it's a non-issue.

One must conclude that these poor chumps are being fed unadulterated propaganda, perhaps by an HMO industry very worried that it will have to start competing...

Posted by: Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 12, 2009 8:02 AM

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